Hawley now says objection to Biden's win wasn't intended to keep Trump in office despite past comments
(CNN)A defiant Sen. Josh Hawley insisted on Thursday that he never intended to overturn the presidential election by objecting to President Joe Biden's victory in Pennsylvania -- despite previously suggesting that Donald Trump could stay in power if Congress acted.
In the aftermath of pro-Trump rioters storming the Capitol seeking
to stop the January 6 certification of Biden's win, the first-term
Missouri Republican senator has faced a barrage of criticism over his
decision to contest the results of Pennsylvania -- with Senate Democrats
calling on the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate his actions and
others calling on him and GOP Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas to resign.
But
Hawley has said he has "no" regrets, telling CNN: "I was very clear
from the beginning that I was never attempting to overturn the
election."
Yet
before January 6, Hawley didn't rule out the possibility that Congress
could throw out the electoral results and keep Trump in office. On
January 4, Hawley was asked by Fox News: "Are you trying to say that as
of January 20th that President Trump will be president?" He responded to
anchor Bret Baier: "Well, Bret that depends on what happens on
Wednesday. I mean this is why we have the debate. This is why we have
the votes." Hawley repeatedly declined to say Congress wouldn't be able
to change the results of Biden's win.
On
Thursday, CNN pressed Hawley on the discrepancy between his claim that
he never attempted to overturn the election and his January 4 comments
that Trump could still be President depending "on what happens" on
January 6 and his refusal then to rule out Congress could change the
outcome. Hawley contended he's been consistent on the point that January
6 was the final day of the electoral process, arguing his sole
intention behind objecting was aimed at sparking debate over
Pennsylvania's voting system.
"I
said to (Baier), what I consistently said ... To me, January 6th is the
end of this process, that's when the votes are counted, certified, the
election winner under the Constitution is officially declared," Hawley
claimed. "To, me that's the end of the line."
Hawley
also would not say if he should have answered Baier differently and
responded with the accurate assertion: That Biden would be the next
president because there was never a chance that Congress would overturn
the result. He said his words would have been twisted no matter what.
"I
think that the liberal onslaught of lies to twist and misconstrue and
attack me, it doesn't matter what I say or what I do, they're going to
tell the lies no matter what," Hawley said as he walked through the
halls of the Capitol. "They are going to say you wanted to overturn the
election, they are going to say you incited violence, all of which are
lies."
Hawley's
objection on January 6 was significant because Congress can throw out
electoral votes if at least one House member and one senator object to a
state's results, followed by majority votes in both chambers. With wide
bipartisan majorities opposing efforts in Congress to discard any
state's electoral results, Hawley's move was bound to fail.
But
after he became the first senator to announce he would object, Hawley
effectively gave hope to pro-Trump activists and fervent supporters that
the defeated GOP President could still hold onto power, a far-fetched
idea that the then-President actively promoted.
Hawley
on Thursday insisted that he was simply trying to spark a debate about
voting "irregularities" in Pennsylvania -- not change the outcome.
"It's
crystal clear what my intentions were, and what I was hoping to
achieve, which is to draw attention to what happened in Pennsylvania and
other irregularities and to try to force some congressional action,
some debate," Hawley said. "I objected to that state for that reason,
and that was me representing my constituents."
Yet federal and state judges rejected several GOP lawsuits alleging
irregularities and illegal voting in Pennsylvania. Democratic and
Republican election officials certified the results in every single
county, rejecting baseless GOP claims that the outcome was tainted by
widespread fraud or improprieties. Plus, Pennsylvania's vote-by-mail
law — which Trump and his allies attacked as unfair and unconstitutional
— was passed long before the pandemic struck with strong GOP support in
the state legislature.
In
his December 30 announcement that he would object to the electoral
results, Hawley didn't say his goal was to overturn the election. But he
also didn't mention that his effort wouldn't change Biden's Electoral
College victory.
Hawley
and other GOP objectors frequently point out that Democrats objected to
the electoral results in 2001, 2005 and 2017. Yet, in all those races,
the Democratic presidential candidate had long conceded, and the only
time a senator joined a House effort was in 2005, when then-Sen. Barbara
Boxer joined House Democrats in objecting to Ohio's electoral results. She was the lone senator to vote to discard that state's results.
This
time, Trump mounted a months-long campaign to discredit the elections,
repeating lies and conspiracies that the election was "rigged" and
"stolen" while promoting the January 6 rally before the joint session of
Congress met to tally the results -- all of which led to the deadly
riot in the Capitol that day.
Asked if his actions perpetuated the lie that the election was stolen, Hawley pushed back.
"I've
never used that rhetoric and I was very clear as to why I was objecting
and what I was doing," Hawley said. "So, absolutely not."
Hawley,
who is frequently seen as a possible 2024 presidential contender,
insists that "I'm not" running in the next presidential election. And
facing a Senate ethics complaint, Hawley says he has not yet heard from
committee investigators (he filed a counter-complaint this week against
the Democrats whom he accused of abusing the process in unfairly
targeting him).
Last
week, Hawley called Trump's remarks on January 6 to the rally
"inflammatory. I think they were irresponsible. I think they were
wrong." And after the rioters ransacked the Capitol, he condemned the
violence and insurrectionists while arguing the proper way to mount a
challenge was in the halls of Congress.
Yet
despite pleas from his colleagues to drop his objection and show unity
after the deadly rampage, Hawley still objected to the Pennsylvania
results, which failed overwhelmingly in the Senate, 7-92. Hawley also
voted for Cruz's challenge to Arizona's results, an effort that was
rejected by a 6-93 vote.
"This
is not about messaging," Hawley said when asked about whether he should
have changed his own rhetoric ahead of January 6. "This is an attempt
to silence political opponents. This is a brazen attempt to shut down
democratic debate."
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